Topic: Towing views - J10 chasis x 2 (Read 3980 times)

Bulldog67 · « **on:** September 07, 2010, 12:01:28 AM »

When I go and pick up the J10 it comes with 2 rolling chasis (basically 2 J10's complete except ALL bodywork, bed, cab & seats), so what i was thinkin was gettin an A-frame and towing them back one at a time on the back of the running J10. What i was wonderin was whether that is either illegal, or dangerous?

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2010, 01:32:47 AM »

er thats how i got a chassis back from south wales,I never had a problem except i had to disconnect steering box as it was seized.

Green Jeep · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:37:09 AM »

Should be fine as a fixed recovery bar is ok for motorway use etc... and an a frame is much more stable and stronger than that.... tail board for lights I guess?

normalbloke · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2010, 10:21:48 AM »

Ah, the A-frame can of worms!
I guess if it is <750kg it will be legal, if >750kg, you're not!

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2010, 12:28:44 PM »

place near me hires at £25 for 2 days for a 4T rated frame & lightboard, and the J10 that will be pulling them is on the log book as some sorta HGV accordin to the dood sellin so obviously will be able to pull them

wildwood · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2010, 12:40:46 PM »

Does the vehicle being towed have to be taxed insured and MOT'd........cos its wheels are on the Queens Highway?

Hope not cos my masterplan will be screwed

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2010, 01:07:06 PM »

if its being driven then it needs to be taxed , mot'd and insured, if it is being towed then I beleive as long as you are towing it via the tow bar ( using an 'a' frame) with a trailer board showing the towing vehicles reg number then it effectively become a trailer and covered by your vehicle insurance, as long as your policy covers things being towed, not all policy's do tho. but its all a bit of a grey area. I don't think any policeman will pull you as long as you are trying the best to comply with the law but you always stand a chance of getting pulled for a chat.

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2010, 01:15:40 PM »

can u send me a copy of your vosa credentials to flash if i get pulled?

Tank · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2010, 01:59:04 PM »

Strictly speaking the only A frames that are truly legal for anything over 750kg are the braked ones,however i have used them normal unbraked A frames and lots of others have with no trouble whatsoever.I havnt heard of anyone being pulled using one.As long as you have a working lightboard and show correct registration and you are ideally not exceeding 85% of the tow vehicles weight you should be fine.I towed my van back from Kent behind a 4runner no probs and also towed the van behind Peters V8 from Lincolnshire to Liverpool all no probs

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:01:21 PM »

Quote from: Bulldog67 on September 07, 2010, 01:15:40 PM

can u send me a copy of your vosa credentials to flash if i get pulled?

just tell them Rob said its ok and they will leave you alone.......

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:06:20 PM »

TBH it wasnt the weight i was concerned about, but more really about what plod would think when they saw a chasis being pulled along, i was wondering if having no body panels etc would be a concern at all

Tank · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:16:38 PM »

Makes it more of a trailer to be honest,so less to worry regards insurance etc

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:17:49 PM »

make sure there are no obvious sharp bits that you could hit people and make sure all tyres are legal, if you can make some type of mudguard for the wheels ( a bit of hardboad bent over the tyres to act like one is fine , cable tied on), if you want to be real finicky but otherwise just use common sense.........

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:19:18 PM »

Quote from: Tank on September 07, 2010, 02:16:38 PM

Makes it more of a trailer to be honest,so less to worry regards insurance etc

lateral thinkin Tank

that works for me

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2010, 02:20:23 PM »

quick question, your not making a chassis fence between your and your neighbour are you?

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:07:49 PM »

now its creative thinkin

hadnt thought of it but that may just work

Nosebolt · « **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:28:43 PM »

there is one issue not yet considered, an un-insured, SORNd vehicle with a registered V5 is different from a unregistered vehicle with no insurance and tax, any SORNd vehicle with its wheels on a road is subject to a fine regardless of the circumstances as you have declared it OFF THE ROAD, an un-registered vehicle with a hitch attached is a trailer

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:33:03 PM »

The J10 is mot'd, taxed and insured, the chasis's have no V5

and im a bit lost in wot ya sayin mate

i could do 95% of the trip on little noddy roads thru the country so v unlikely to get a pull, would be easier and quicker to blatt down the motorway but maybe might not be the best choice

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #18 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:43:07 PM »

yup that is correct apart from the fact that a vehicles registration plate is secured to the body , not the chassis and I think I am correct in saying that ANPR do no yet recognise chassis numbers, only refelective plates.If the vehicle doesn't have a registration plate how would BD know it was sorned?
he would not have been the person declaring the vehicle sorned either so it would be hard to prosecute him as it was a new purchase.He could also claim he is taking it to a recycling centre to be disposed of and that is a legit reason to be towing it, and his neighbour will vouch for the recycling centre he lives next door to.......lol its far too much paperwork for a copper unless the chassis is proved to be a stolen vehicle and hence BD is the criminal mastermind for a fsj smuggling ring or its an anal copper.

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:47:33 PM »

im gonna get my bro to drive

Bubba · « **Reply #20 on:** September 07, 2010, 04:53:37 PM »

you will be fine legal tyres is the must i have an a frame its been used several hundred times now i should think by a few members you could borrow it if i was feelin generous

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 07, 2010, 05:02:16 PM »

v generous cheers mate, but dunno if i could get it to me cheaper than £25, but if i have to pull them over a few weekends will come back to ya, cheers

Bubba · « **Reply #22 on:** September 07, 2010, 05:03:23 PM »

i wernt feelin generous just sayin i have one

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 07, 2010, 05:06:44 PM »

so then Bubba, any plans to increase the fleet in the near future, i hear certain sellers might even b throwin in a yrs insurance to tempt u over to some luxury

Nosebolt · « **Reply #24 on:** September 07, 2010, 06:10:05 PM »

Quote from: Panic mechanic! on September 07, 2010, 04:43:07 PM

yup that is correct apart from the fact that a vehicles registration plate is secured to the body , not the chassis and I think I am correct in saying that ANPR do no yet recognise chassis numbers, only refelective plates.If the vehicle doesn't have a registration plate how would BD know it was sorned?
he would not have been the person declaring the vehicle sorned either so it would be hard to prosecute him as it was a new purchase.He could also claim he is taking it to a recycling centre to be disposed of and that is a legit reason to be towing it, and his neighbour will vouch for the recycling centre he lives next door to.......lol its far too much paperwork for a copper unless the chassis is proved to be a stolen vehicle and hence BD is the criminal mastermind for a fsj smuggling ring or its an anal copper.

was refering more to the discusion with wilwood at cheapfest, but yea get your point

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