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[JayB]

The time has come for new tyres for my wifes GC 2.7 Crd, I wanted some General grabbers for it as she had these on her old ZJ and they were excellent.  I am told that they do not make them in 235/65R17, is this correct or do I need to look for something else.

John

[Nosebolt]

click here

[Bulldog67]

NB: i kno u told me b4 how to do that but can ya re-tell please

[Nosebolt]

i asume you meen the clicky link thing, if so heres how

type what you want everyone to see

click here

highlight what you have typed and click the hyperlink button, thats the little platet on the second row, 3rd accross above the smileys, you will end up with something like this

[ url]click here[/url ]

then after the first [url and before the closing bracket ] type =www.webaddress.com you will end up with

[ url=www.webaddress.com]click here[/url ]

when you click the click here you will be taken to the web address

[Bulldog67]

cheers dood

[ivanidea]

Just don't forget to replace webaddress with the actual web site address       

[gregwho]

The time has come for new tyres for my wifes GC 2.7 Crd, I wanted some General grabbers for it as she had these on her old ZJ and they were excellent.  I am told that they do not make them in 235/65R17, is this correct or do I need to look for something else.

I went through a similar thing about 6 months ago on the same model WJ, and i had the standard 235/65/17...had a mare trying to find some half decent ATR's in that size, so in the end took a gamble on uping the size slightly.  I went with 255/65/17 (had to change the spare at the sametime though by doing this )and bought Cooper ATR's (would have gone for General's but there were none in the country and no-one could tell me when new stock would be available).  I've done about 6k on them so far and they're doing really well, with hardly any sign of wear yet    The bigger size just fits in the spare wheel well, and theres no rubbing on the wheel arches at full lock etc.

[JayB]

Thanks for the replies, I must admit upping the size a bit was next on the agenda, but it is starting to look as if I can get some Yokohama Geolander A/T's to fit.  I have Geolanders on my Pajero and am well pleased with them.  I'll keep ya posted.

John

[sprintagogo]

Just a quick Q JayB. Why do you want AT's on your wifes Grand? Does it do any off-roading because for most use including nipping up the odd track to visit rural addresses a set of the normal road biased tyres will do. AT's are a compromise and will affect MPG and road noise. When we had the terrible prolonged snow and cold spell last winter I got everywhere I needed to get in the family Astra estate with normal tyres on (admittedly, far from bald but still a definite typical car tyre) just by driving appropriately (skillfully?) and was driving circles (literally) around all the other plonkers that didin't have a clue and were slipping and sliding all over the show.

I just wonder if you have been bitten by the chunky tyre bug (I'm as guilty as the next man!) when in reality your GC on normal tyres is capable of anything your wife would probably consider suitable for driving over? To this end I have recently downgraded from a set of MT's to a set of AT's for my regular tyres that I use for all my laning, trialling and everyday use and then a set of insa turbo extremes for the odd winch/mud fest type event.

Think about it.

[thorna]

I think Sprintagoo is spot on.
I use my GC for going up country tracks, over fields & on the beach, as well as on the usual tarmac; it has Goodyear Wrangler F1's.
Usually I don't rate any Goodyear Wrangler tyre other than MTRs but these have worked perfectly; super quiet on road as well.

Don't think I'd ever go for ATs or anything more agressive unless this was used offroad in anger.

[Bishops Finger]

Utter twaddle IMHO..

Go for some form of AT tyre ...even allowing for the more sophisticated traction controls on newer Grands....road noise will be bugger all anyway...

[sprintagogo]

Utter twaddle IMHO..
 

Really? Why would the OP want to struggle for the correct tyre size, possibly compromise MPG and road noise and probably have to pay more into the bargain?

IMVHO it makes sense to drive into the nearest cut price tyre bay and take a set of factory equivalent tyres.

[JayB]

The reason for the A/T's is the usual, we live in the Highlands and the unusual snow conditions experienced by most of the UK last year is not that unusual for us, we have some quite dramatic hills and in the snow bearing in mind you could quite easily be the first vehicle through, and don't hold your breath for a snow plough, I don't think your family Astra estate would manage skilfully driven or not.  I also do a lot of shooting in some pretty inaccessible areas and sometimes I use the jeep.  But most important of all my wife feels a lot safer knowing she has some substantial tyres on her car, so really the cost etc does not come into it.

John

[sprintagogo]

Real valid points then, you don't just want AT's because 'they look right' so a set of AT's will be a real benefit. If it were me I would avoid going any wider as wide tyres tend to be rubbish in the snow.

[Bishops Finger]

AT's should be better than M?Ts in the snow so go forit....

[Dutch]

Got Pirelli Scorpion AT's on mine.  Never noticed any difference over the std. wranglers.

Only difference was that last winter mine was the only thing that moved up hill in the development 

[Bubba]

boggers

[isle of man]

 

[cliff]

In a similar position, my Pirelli Scorpions are close to the limit on the front and I doubt they will pass the MOT next month.  Also winter will be spent in (old) East Germany where heavy snow and temperatures south of -16 C were common last year.

Not been impressed with the Pirellis, then again I wasn't happy when I had them on a previous car and swore never to have them again.  They were on the Grand when I bought it though.

Have spent a lot of time researching and been looking at the General AT2, Cooper Discoverer ATR, & Kumho AT78.  The General gets really good reviews and was my preferred choice.

The other problem here is that as the GC cruises quite happily at 120mph, legally,  I need a tyre that is H or more rated.  This ruled out the Cooper and size ruled out the General.

I didn't think of going for 255 but that brings the General AT2 back into play and pretty much what I've decided to go for.

Any other recommendations for an AT with good snow performance?

[wrangler07]

Real valid points then, you don't just want AT's because 'they look right' so a set of AT's will be a real benefit. If it were me I would avoid going any wider as wide tyres tend to be rubbish in the snow.

A good point. If you're going to hit snow quite a bit you'd be better off reducing the width by one size rather than upping it. Car weight pressing down on a smaller tyre area = more grip.

[gazjeep]

A few folk on the Touareg site use verdestein winter tyres, supposed to work at temperatures below 7 Deg C .... then swap back to all season jobbies

Highly rated by some but never used em myself

http://tyremen.myshopify.com/collections/4-x-4-tyres/

[JamesH]

A few folk on the Touareg site use verdestein winter tyres, supposed to work at temperatures below 7 Deg C .... then swap back to all season jobbies

Highly rated by some but never used em myself

http://tyremen.myshopify.com/collections/4-x-4-tyres/

Really common fitment on all sorts of cars in Finland the couple of times I've visited in winter, and they have serious snow (this was north of arctic circle, nr Ivalo).

[Bishops Finger]

And lets face it the germans know lots about driving in the snow eg Stalingrad....

[cliff]

 

[cliff]

At the start of winter you normally see lots of smashed BMW's, Audi's & Merc's as the arrogant morons who drive them seem to think that not only are they are better than the rest of the planet but mother nature as well.  It takes a few weeks for the message to be driven into their thick skulls.

Ah Helga, I haff my German Auto! zere is no need to be careful.  Mein Gott in Himmel ze tyres,  zey are not verking!!!