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[brian reid]

how do i know if my track bar bushings are worn,i have a poly kit for this laying in my garage for ages waiting to go on,all the rest is done,control arms etc,just the track bar,so how does this come off,when taking it off is there a risk of the axle moving,is it best done with car on ground or raised.

want to do this over the weekend as well as new tie rods, new tyres are coming and she is going to get her tracking done/checked next week so got to get the bar off and polys on.

any tips

regards brian

[carljh]

if you mean the panhard rod my WJ was done with it on its wheels on a lift.

[JamesH]

It's only a bush at the axle end but you'll need to remove it at both ends to attack the bush and get it out - mine was a pig to remove from the bar.

Do it with the Jeep on it's wheels, on a flat surface if possible to limit movement of the Jeep, it may shift a bit but can usually just be pushed side to side as needed by a second person to relocate the trackbar once the work is done.

[brian reid]

further to this posting i have got the track bar off,the axle end bush was worn and i burned it out,cleaned up and but new bush in,easy job.

but the ball joint at the frame end has wear/damage also,can you get these joints with out having to buy a full track bar,i have got this far so dont want to trash it just for a stud joint,we have a press to take it out,but there can i get a stud joint to fit the track bar,so far drawn a blank.

regards brian

[JamesH]

It's not a serviceable item. Others have been known to cut it off and fit an adjustable tie rod end from one of the tie-rod ends from a 2nd hand tie-rod.

Alternatively, shell out for a new or 2nd hand good one, or fabricate something else on that end - a rose joint has been done before, there are a number of possibilities. I have a full-size johnny joint and new bracket on mine but that's a whole other story ($$$) 

[brian reid]

what a dump ass design,this stud joint,is there ment to be movement on it or is it rigid,we may mod,looked at prices and a crown parts bar comes in around just under £100 inc shipping,not bad i reckon just to get good tracking and stop that annoying drift,its not like driving its like sailing these days,will have a closer look and take it from there but the moding idea seems good to me if its up to the job.

thanks

[JamesH]

Also make sure the body bracket for the track bar is done up F'in tight.

[brian reid]

ok will do,but does the stud joint have any movement in it when they are new,or are they ment to be solid,because there is movment in the stud joint i just presume this is nackered,but as i am not sure what i am looking for advise is welcome.

regards brian

[Dave69]

if your refering to the ball joint then there shouldn't be any movement apart from the limited movement to allow for axle movement which should be hard to move by hand

[brian reid]

this ball joint,we are trying to get the castle nut off but no joy,not a lot of room under there without taking the  tracking linkage off.

we believe the caslte nut is ment to be 19mm,but a brand new 19mm 12 point socket just seems to rotate on the nut,we tried a smaller size and it still will not budge,not keen on taking the bracket off and removing as a complete unit,then splitting the ball joint away,this would be a last resort.
if we cant get the castle nut off how about cutting the ball joint shaft then drilling the rest out up the way,what do you think,if not are the bracket bolts easy to get out and any tips for doing so,i see one just behind the spring that could be hard to get into.
i have an outstanding mech man i use who would do this no bother,but then i would not learn anything that way about ma cherokee.

regards brian

[MOCAJ]

try af sizes and 6 sided sockets, jeeps are USA in many places