Topic: Poor mans V8? (Read 7087 times)

WillCJ · « **on:** January 22, 2012, 10:34:22 PM »

OK, I would love a V8 in my CJ7, currently a reasonable but tired 258 on rebuilt 999 and new TC. I am a bit worried about too much power (and fuel!) with a 'proper ' engine so considering putting in a Rover (AKA Buick?) good old tried and tested thing, may even work up to fuel injection if no major technical issues. should rev well for the gearing (4.10 on 33's) and make the right noises.
I think I know where this is going to go, but anyone any knowledge on this conversion, I have not worked on Rover V8 and not seen one close for a while, but seem plenty on e-bay and looks at least as tho the starter motor is in a similar position, not searched for kits either, and thanks to all for input on other threads so far.
Cheers.

Bubba · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2012, 10:41:10 PM »

the only good thing about the rover is its light and efi would be the only one worth having

a jeep v8 bolts right in with factory parts and gives all the power you can need and yes the tranny will stand it no probs

dieselj20 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2012, 10:46:36 PM »

if you use a Early range rover 727 box change the output shaft and rear housing from the 999 [tf6]you can use the range rover bell housing adapter

WillCJ · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:00:45 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on January 22, 2012, 10:41:10 PM

the only good thing about the rover is its light and efi would be the only one worth having

a jeep v8 bolts right in with factory parts and gives all the power you can need and yes the tranny will stand it no probs

Part of my reasoning is the light weight, also cheap for parts and use less fuel (guessing)
Couldn'nt get my head round the factory option 304 having same or only a little more horsepower than the 258, but some variations on that engine I see, and of course the 360, will that bolt in? be heavy tho?

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:04:14 PM »

bolt in, and not that heavy, me and bro lifted and carried one without injury

this dood has been tryin to sell this for about a yr, daftly overpriced but he must be well ready for a decent offer

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cj7-jeep-amc-360-v8-hotrod-kitcar-/250976982522?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6f64d5fa#ht_500wt_1202

Bubba · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:06:09 PM »

almost no diff in the weight power output are net hp so look weak and as for thirst dont bet on it

WillCJ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:09:29 PM »

Quote from: dieselj20 on January 22, 2012, 10:46:36 PM

if you use a Early range rover 727 box change the output shaft and rear housing from the 999 [tf6]you can use the range rover bell housing adapter

I looked in to that before I rebuilt my 999, but still end up using an adapter plate, should not be too hard to make one for the 999, tho the RR 727 was a ford?

Bubba · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM »

ford ? nope 727 is v similar big bro to the 999

dieselj20 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:14:38 PM »

RR 3 speed auto is a Chrysler [tf8 ]

WillCJ · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:16:23 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on January 22, 2012, 11:06:09 PM

almost no diff in the weight power output are net hp so look weak and as for thirst dont bet on it

Hi yeah cheers, good info, looked at that one on ebay before, but even if he takes an offer its a bit too much£'s, and tho it has agood spec list I am not all that trusting of other peoples rebuilds, its alot of dosh to risk. I def need to look in to this option some more cheers.
Saw this while on there....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WADE-R034-SUPERCHARGER-ROVER-V8-KIT-CAR-HOT-ROD-GT40-/230732964918?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5799180166909761409
ouch!

WillCJ · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:17:55 PM »

Quote from: dieselj20 on January 22, 2012, 11:14:38 PM

RR 3 speed auto is a Chrysler [tf8 ]

thats it .. remember now, some big chrysler v8's out there too

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:18:32 PM »

holy crap that is expensive

dieselj20 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:20:51 PM »

if your looking to super charge you might as well go 360

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2012, 09:01:16 AM »

I kinda look at rover engines in a cj like most jeepers look at the vm....... don't do it!
I know 360's are thin on the ground but if you look hard enough they are out there.And they are a lot cheaper to rebuil than the rover.

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2012, 09:35:08 AM »

Thats very true, they are out there, only reason i stopped lookin and sellin was that the arse fell out the market so only way i coud turn a profit was sellin in bulk to the German but havin loads of engines in ya drive gets tedious

CJ6 dood on here was sellin one that i had sold him coz he had a change of plan, have a search in the exchange section

Bubba · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2012, 10:20:59 AM »

the rover v8 is a nice engine for flatfenders

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2012, 10:35:15 AM »

chevy vortec is better ,and produces more

Bubba · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2012, 10:36:55 AM »

agreed but years ago before vortec and rover got the v8 it was a done swap with the original buick lump

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2012, 10:39:51 AM »

actually thinking about it doesn't the 4.0 produce more power as well?

wildwood · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2012, 12:54:04 PM »

Got a feeling early RR V8s only produced 135bhp................. cos thats what they put in the MG V8..

(yes I had one)

SD1 Vitesse stuff produced 190 before tweaks...................

So standard 4 litre TJ YJ cherry GC stuff is up there already without too much faffing...........just a thought

ferretjuggler · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2012, 01:20:33 PM »

I wonder if there's a medical term for fear of a "proper" yank built V8?

wildwood · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2012, 01:48:44 PM »

Tis a medical condition.....known as

'The Curse of the Buick Boat-Anchor'

jeepcj · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2012, 03:04:52 PM »

I wouldn't think it was worth the effort putting a Rover V8 in, if you are after V8 power find a Chevy, more power than the Rover, easier to find than an AMC. Chevy will be lighter than the AMC V8, probably about the same as the straight 6, cheaper for bits as well.
If you want an AMC V8 a bit quick, try here http://www.dbmotors.net/10283/info.php?p=3&pno=0
I have know idea how much they would charge, but they have a few by the looks of it.

chrisjones · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2012, 03:19:53 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on January 23, 2012, 10:20:59 AM

the rover v8 is a nice engine for flatfenders

We might need to have a chat about that at some point.

Delk · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2012, 03:30:44 PM »

Forget the Rover V8

Did you see this on DB motors?
425 injected Cadillac engine with TH400 auto box!!!!!!!!

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