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Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« on: January 30, 2012, 11:13:54 AM »

Hi,

Looking at a Wrangler TJ, gearbox (auto) failed, same as Cherokee?

Matey says he's lost the key and fob, I called parts supplier they said main dealer...

Can the transponder/alarm/immobliser be bypassed easily? Or could they be taken off a cherokee and coded in?

Thanks in advance Maf
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, key & fob lost, gearbox no drive...
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 11:20:30 AM »

no if i am correct its a 999 same as a cj the cherokee uses aw4, so not a direct swap, for getting past the key transponder prob requires the purchase of an american ecu as uk versions had the security built in to it so not easily by passed.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, key & fob lost, gearbox no drive...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 11:23:54 AM »

Not the same gearbox in a wrangler (32RH) as a cherokee (AW4) - the only way to bypass the PCM is buy one from the same year in the USA - this does not have the alarm system activated.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, key & fob lost, gearbox no drive...
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 12:15:16 PM »

Hi,

STOP PRESS....

Key found, but does not have key fob with lock and unlock, is the transponder in the key? Previous owner claims it never had a fob... had a TJ same year and that had a fob...

Cheers Maf
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 12:19:13 PM »

Transponder is in the key
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 12:21:15 PM »

the transponder is in the key, the fob normally arms the alarm system only so you may be lucky,have you checked the gearbox for fluids and that the transfer box is not actually in neutral ( stupid i know but if the cable has come adrift it can easily happen)
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 12:25:38 PM »

I think I may have a spare fob knocking around at home. I'll check at the weekend

..........you'll probably have to remind me though!
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 12:31:02 PM »

the transponder is in the key, the fob normally arms the alarm system only so you may be lucky,have you checked the gearbox for fluids and that the transfer box is not actually in neutral ( stupid i know but if the cable has come adrift it can easily happen)

Thanks... thats sounding better about the key...

Jeep was driving along then failed...
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 12:34:22 PM »

check the bottom of the  bell housing for oil if it has lost the torque converter seal it will have pissed out there and emptied the torque converter hence very shortly after no drive.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 01:06:12 PM »

Similiar tbing happened to me when my bic pen and cable tie rosdside repair coudnt cope with tbe pressure
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 01:21:02 PM »

if the key has a round grey end then no fob required.

its built into the key, not sure what year it changed but my 2003 used this system, called skis  :greggmo:
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 01:39:10 PM »

As above, no seperate fob on our 98 Auto TJ  :icon_winkle:

Whats the level & condition of the autobox fluid. You have to check it with the engine nice & warm while running. Shouldn't show any signs of being burnt.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 02:11:34 PM »

Big thanks guys...

Will check fliuds etc and report back in a couple of days cheers Maf
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 11:26:54 AM »

Lots of fluid in box but black, presume clutch packs...

Think its had a leak as 5 ltrs of transmission fiuld and a funnel under bonnet...

Although the Cherokee box is different does anyone know if it can be fitted?

Thanks Maf
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2012, 11:47:19 AM »

burnt out a rebuild is needed........................... xj box to long i think
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2012, 01:03:15 PM »

Cost about a grand for a rebuild - Cherokee box is not the same and not an easy option.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 01:10:46 PM »

Thanks, found some write ups through google on people putting XJ Auto into a TJ Manual, most of it relates to different ECU wiring etc...

If I can keep the cost down then the TJ becomes a possible punch hunt truck.... its pretty clean and straight...

I have two cherokee's at the mo, so if I can use a box from one of them then that is happy days...

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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2012, 02:38:32 PM »

www.stu-offroad.com

If you haven't seen this write up yet.


Pages and pages of doing what you want to do with all details on wiring ............unbelievable.
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 03:57:21 PM »

I seem to recall you can buy a de electricketry kit - can't remember right now though - not much use but it will come to me....
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2012, 04:27:18 PM »

www.stu-offroad.com

If you haven't seen this write up yet.


Pages and pages of doing what you want to do with all details on wiring ............unbelievable.

Think a lot of the stuff is about converting a Manual TJ to take an Auto XJ box... should be easier as it would of course be Auto TJ to take an Auto XJ box...

Our plan is to take the TJ box out, drive the XJ on the ramp and compare and measure...
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2012, 06:10:52 PM »

Found this a couple of weeks ago.
can delete TCM or not but gives manual shift on your auto..............always fun.

http://radesignsproducts.com/14Shiftcontrollers.aspx
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Re: Wranger TJ Auto 1998 4.0, fob lost???? gearbox no drive...
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 01:45:30 PM »

Got TJ up and running now, starter and battery gone south...

Tries to drive when you select R or D... lots of funny noises, going to try a fluid flush and filter change...

Details to follow....
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