Topic: Willo's Challenge Truck build "Project T-J" (Read 98304 times)

willo · « **Reply #75 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Warthog on March 07, 2012, 08:06:59 PM

May help

http://www.nationwideparts.com/differentials.htm

funny, I was just looking at that page, great minds n all that

dieselj20 · « **Reply #76 on:** March 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM »

have a look around the pinion nose Webb's should have the axle no cast on it

willo · « **Reply #77 on:** March 08, 2012, 08:16:19 AM »

Quote from: dieselj20 on March 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM

have a look around the pinion nose Webb's should have the axle no cast on it

Thanks I'll have another look later, and measure the ring gear/ see what is stamped on it

Looking through the Dana 70 bible on Pirate last night I got a funny feeling (knowing my luck) that it could be a Dana 61, only time will tell

dieselj20 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 08, 2012, 08:19:30 AM »

only ever seen a 61 with flanged shafts looks like the 70 i fitted in the j20

willo · « **Reply #79 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:55:10 AM »

Went back over to drop off some wheels before work this morning and had another look at the pumpkin

Clearly stamped on an inside flange 70-2U...... Seems my luck is changing! Just gotta work out how to convert dana44 front spindles to 8 lug OR convert the rear to 6x6.5

Eithout Birty's for sure i would not be at this stage. Thanks

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:42:33 AM »

He who dares wins Rodders

Delk · « **Reply #81 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:07:09 AM »

Ford used 8x6.5" lug patterns on the F250 dana 44's so a eight bolt pattern will not be a hard swap for the front.

If I am correct this thing is up in Scotland and will have a TTB dana 44 front. The housing will be a waste but I think all the hubs and spindles will bolt straight accross. Plus it may possably come with a Dana 60 rear (or Ford 10.25).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230755406256?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Delk · « **Reply #82 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:17:55 AM »

I just had a quick look and I am not sure how easy it is to change over using the Ford TTB axle parts. It looks as if the spindles and everything are different but you maybe able to use the entire knuckles outboard but not sure.

I did find some other info that maybe helpful.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html

Swapping the Knuckles Out for high steer and 8 on 6.5" wheel bolt pattern: (8 bolts = 3/4 ton style) You've 3 options:

Option 1: Chevy parts: Grab a Chevy or Full Size Jeep Dana 44 knuckles and outer axle shaft. To convert these to 8 on 6.5" you'll need to find a 3/4 ton disk brakes Chevy truck (note some Chevy 1 tons ran a Dana 44 from 73-78). It can be running a Dana 44 (73-80) or a Chevy 10 Bolts (77-87) as these parts interchange! From the 3/4 ton truck you'll need the Spindle, Caliper mounting plate, Caliper, disk brake Rotor, Hub with lug nuts and lockout. Also grab the outer axle shaft, as all Chevy Dana 44's with the 5-297x style u-joint run the same outer shaft. Now you've the parts, make it work!! This option is harder to source parts.

Option 2: Run Ford 3/4 ton Knuckles Out, however you can only use Ford 3/4 ton brakes with Ford knuckles. This option will cost more, year for to source 3/4 ton Ford parts 76-79. Do note 76-77 is a larger hub and lock-out that is difficult to find. 77.5-79 runs the same lock-out as a 1/2 tons and is easier to find. See my Dana 44 article for more info between different types of Ford Dana 44 axles.

Option 3: Run Dodge or IHC 3/4 ton stuff. Here is how... Who am I kidding, I have no clue on Dodge stuff ;~) IHC see note in above.

willo · « **Reply #83 on:** March 08, 2012, 06:51:21 PM »

pulled the lid off the diff today, it has an open diff but by christ its feckin huge

written on it is:

3 2890 Dana D 34840 P8L08 41 10, would I be correct in thinking its 4.10 ratio?

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willo · « **Reply #84 on:** March 08, 2012, 06:54:13 PM »

found it:

6lug-8lug

Delk · « **Reply #85 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:50:02 AM »

Take a look at Boyce Equipment in the states. They handle quite a bit of ex military equipment.

Maybe you should go with a set of 2 1/2 ton Rockwells!

http://www.boyceequipment.com/

doublej · « **Reply #86 on:** March 09, 2012, 04:05:54 PM »

Nice axle find! I cant remember if you can shave the bottom of a 70 pumkin, but dont see why not. Hell i have watched one guy spin the shaft and another hold a grinder to the ring gear

Not like you dont have some extra to give up! lol
If you are even slightly concerned with the control arms - sleeve them with another tube. on mine i used seamed sleeved with unseamed. cause your 100% right - some fool is hiding all the tube in the UK.

willo · « **Reply #87 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:59:00 AM »

So i pulled apart my D44 front spindle at the weekend, so as to measure something for Mr RCV. I have borrowed a spindle nut socket off Delk, whilst mine is on order. However the hub nuts that are on my spindles are no where near the size of the socket, I wonder if anyone has any ideas what is going on here

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Delk · « **Reply #88 on:** March 12, 2012, 12:55:41 PM »

I may have sent you the wrong socket. I will have some spare spindle nuts at home I will measure this evening and I will look to see if I have a different socket in my box.

Delk · « **Reply #89 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:23:02 AM »

Willo, sorry about that it looks like I sent you my socket for a Dana 60. How soon do you need the one for the Dana 44?

This looks more like it.
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willo · « **Reply #90 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:33:43 AM »

Ah, that makes sense, well I have pulled one side apart and ordered up bearings which I intend to fit this weekend, so ASAP really!

Delk · « **Reply #91 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:38:56 AM »

Consider it done.

willo · « **Reply #92 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:55:52 AM »

Thanks Delk. Do you want some money for ostage? I will get on and send the D60 core drill back!

Delk · « **Reply #93 on:** March 13, 2012, 10:15:53 AM »

Don't worry about it, I am sure I will be in need some day. Hold on to the other one and send both of them back when you are done.

On a side note I sold my last Dana 60 years ago and still cry over it. I had a CJ7 at the time and the transmission went to bits so I had to sell my truck. It was an early 80s Chevy with a 350 V8, SM465 4 speed with granny low, Dana 60 front and GM14 bolt rear. It would have been better to cut the truck up and put all the bits in my Jeep.

willo · « **Reply #94 on:** March 14, 2012, 04:34:59 PM »

Slight change of plan, control arms are gonna be 57mm cds with 7mm wall after discovering this handy lot:

Steel

willo · « **Reply #95 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:36:16 PM »

So after a few deliveries this week, and another package from the good man Delk, I thought I'd pop over to the garage and service(read replace) my front wheel bearings with this little lot:
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After my visit last weekend I remembered to pack a couple of spare UJ's as I thought they were a bit fooked, upon removal of the long side shaft, a whole heap load of mud and slurry came out the tube, feck! I shone my torch up there and low and behold the tube was full of mud.
I had also noticed some pools of 'chocolate milkshake' had leaked on the floor out of the pinion seal, so decided to can the wheel bearing service and see what the diff looked like.......

willo · « **Reply #96 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »

Oh Dear God

do they not do maintenance oop North?

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Well that really laid plans to rest concerning servicing the wheel bearings, so I decided instead to strip the axle(as the steel for the control arms still hasn't turned up...) and give everything a damn good clean. So I stripped the other side down, and found that the caliper had clearly not been moving this century grrr, also I would need 2 new inner axle seals

willo · « **Reply #97 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:45:07 PM »

after removing the majority of what can only be descibed as shit after a dodgy curry type liquid, I pulled out the diff and pinion, more joy........not

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I also found that the top and bottom ball joints were u/s so decided to out them with my well used $30 harbour freight tool:

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willo · « **Reply #98 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:47:03 PM »

Then we made myself wet and everything else clean

willo · « **Reply #99 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:53:30 PM »

So after today, I find myself staring down at needing:

1 x D44RC Ring and Pinion
diff bearing and shim set
2x inner axle seals
full set top and bottom ball joints
caliper rebuild kit x2

And these calipers Birty's is where I need a bit of a hand to discover what they are, I was told (then again I was told the axle was ok) that it has fsj outers, here is a pic of said kunkles:

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