Topic: What are your opinions on lpg?? (Read 8992 times)

lefty · « **on:** July 02, 2006, 03:40:38 PM »

I'm faced with a bit of a quandry...

We're going to be moving out to the sticks soon and i'll have a 60 mile daily commute.

I don't fancy doing this either in the xj (fuel costs :shock:

) or in my vx220t (sore arse, depreciation on high mileage jobs

).

I've been thinking about getting a little diesel runaround, something like a clio or corsa. The other alternative is to go for an lpg conversion.

The last alternative which my wife likes (!) is to get rid of the jeep and buy a diesel 4x4 of some description. Not keen on this one i must say...

So, getting back to lpg, what are the pitfalls?? And what kind of economy can i expect??

Where does the lpg tank go? is it a pain in the tits to get it fitted?

:?

daggie · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2006, 04:23:37 PM »

Lpg in a cherry aint that bad 16-20 mpg, the tank can go in the load area(not recomended) get a under slung tank with a smaller 30 litre petrol tank.
also go for a prinz system or such, as long as it is sequential gas injection, better fuel economy & power.

don't worry about off-roading, the gas & petrol tanks are bomb proof, I've slammed the arse end down onto rocks & only scratched the paint :wink:

MK1 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2006, 04:34:14 PM »

My suggestion would be to go for the diesel run about. 50/60 mpg from my old 106.

Insure the XJ as a second car with limited milage, use the NCD on the 106.

Job's a good un. :smt023

UKJeeper · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2006, 04:35:32 PM »

My '94 Xj has had LPG for 4 years and has no problems. It has the 70/30 tanks as mentioned and i get around 230 miles from 60 litres of LPG. Its our main car and runs around just fine.

I have heard that the newer multi-point systems are the dogs danglies. Apparently you are hard pressed to tell the difference in performance and power from petrol.

Most insurance companies aren't that fussed either. They may, or may not, ask for the cettificate.

GowerJeeper · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2006, 05:48:53 PM »

My YJ been running on LPG for 7 years now, no problem. Its uses a single point injection system, if I was doing it again I would go for the multi-point system but at the time was not available. Getting hold of LPG nowadays is not a problem even with a little 40 litre tank. Had mine converted at Warwick 4x4 near Coventry.

bobbin · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2006, 06:21:29 PM »

Had the xj on lpg just over a year, its brill. 70/30 underslung tank, multipoint system,16mpg ,same as on petrol ,no difference to performance,everyday car and conversion paid for itself in 12 mths. Will have tj done as soon as i've got the spondoolics! Why drive around in a wee tin box when you can drive your Jeep?!!! :lol:

Dodster · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2006, 07:09:41 PM »

Same here...
Had the zg for 12 months on lpg, never had problems finding gas and still only paying 34p a litre..
Had one or two minor running probs initially but they have been sorted.
Tryin to save up for a V8..

trent · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2006, 09:33:32 PM »

Quote from: "Mark Barrs"

My suggestion would be to go for the diesel run about. 50/60 mpg from my old 106.

Insure the XJ as a second car with limited milage, use the NCD on the 106.

Job's a good un.

I had a diesel astra and got around 40-45 urban and 55-60 on a run, mainly used for the commute to and from work, i sold it for 400quid!
I would look for something similar if i was in your position. Insurance was cheap, parts are cheap etc. Cheaper than replacing worn out xj bits, plus the cost of the conversion (that would buy you something decent to start with).

Anonymous · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2006, 10:33:12 PM »

http://www.offroading.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2159 :lol:

Anonymous · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2006, 10:34:44 PM »

Quote from: "trent"

Quote from: "Mark Barrs"
My suggestion would be to go for the diesel run about. 50/60 mpg from my old 106.

Insure the XJ as a second car with limited milage, use the NCD on the 106.

Job's a good un.

I had a diesel astra and got around 40-45 urban and 55-60 on a run, mainly used for the commute to and from work, i sold it for 400quid!
I would look for something similar if i was in your position. Insurance was cheap, parts are cheap etc. Cheaper than replacing worn out xj bits, plus the cost of the conversion (that would buy you something decent to start with).

If I was in your position I'd go with Trents idea

Bubba · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2006, 11:14:56 PM »

Ric Jacques · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:44:37 AM »

And me

chrisjones · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2006, 10:32:08 AM »

Me to.

XJ's run well on LPG but it is another thing to go wrong. If you can afford and have the space to have a little oil burning run about go for it. It'll be cheaper to run AND you can insure the Jeep cheaper, not put so much mileage on it and not have to worry so much about breaking it when you try that bit which you would normally avoid cos you've got to get to work in the morning. :wink:

JamesH · « **Reply #13 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:54:11 AM »

I love running my XJ on LPG. Using a multipoint system it works really well.

However, a little run-around is going to be so much cheaper and I plan on doing the same when I change jobs in October and have a 40 mile commute.

It also means that the XJ doesn't have to be relied upon as transport so there can be more 'downtime' for modifications and less worrying about breakages when playing.

lefty · « **Reply #14 on:** July 03, 2006, 12:54:16 PM »

Quote

It also means that the XJ doesn't have to be relied upon as transport so there can be more 'downtime' for modifications and less worrying about breakages when playing

I like your thinking matey :lol:

Good advice guys, cheers. The xj is already my second car and i only do about 100 miles a week in it at the moment... My wife's got a punto hgt which ought to do 35mpg i would think but i can't use that for commuting cause she won't drive the jeep or the vx :?

reckon a diesel 106 or the like might well be the way to go...

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #15 on:** July 03, 2006, 05:10:31 PM »

I find LPG far more convenient and controllable than charcoal. Sausages and burgers cook more evenly, but you still have to watch for fat fires if you're cooking cheap ones.

MOCAJ · « **Reply #16 on:** July 03, 2006, 05:46:36 PM »

nope,

charcoal for me, more taste :lol: :lol:

Anonymous · « **Reply #17 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:15:37 PM »

Quote from: "Mike Pavelin"

I find LPG far more convenient and controllable than charcoal. Sausages and burgers cook more evenly, but you still have to watch for fat fires if you're cooking cheap ones.

Load of twaddle......if ya gonna BBQ its got to be proper flame

Gas BBQ's ya might as well put the cooker in the back garden :twisted:

Just cooked a chicken in @ 1hr 10...top food

cartman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 06, 2006, 07:23:53 PM »

We converted our 97 XJ about a year and a half ago and had an AG sequential system fitted. Cannot detect a drop in power over petrol and get about 190 miles to 55 litres of LPG in the underslung tank. Cost £2200 fitted. But allow for a new set of rear springs as well to cope with the extra weight and rear end droop. Or AAL if you have already had a lift.

I have had a few problems but it is running fine after McLaren took it away for 2 weeks to fine tune it but the main problem is gas availability. I have one station 3 miles down the road but my 40 mile each way commute has no others unless I make a big detour. OK I could fit an additional tank but that would take up space.

Looking back on the hassle and problems I have had and if I had known it all in advance I would have bought a diesel 4x4 and tweaked it. Go with the small diesel car option IMHO :wink:

bobbin · « **Reply #19 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:38:19 PM »

Birty's is truly bonkers!! 8-[ )

Dingo · « **Reply #20 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:47:19 PM »

Yup, save the jeep, don't wear it out on the tarmac.

bobbin · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2006, 10:06:10 PM »

:? nope, still dont get it! have jeep, drive jeep all time,me like drive jeep!!

( why me speak like red indian, me um no idea,maybe john smith's fault!)

lefty · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2006, 10:41:20 AM »

The deal is done, just bought a golf tdi :oops:

Anonymous · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2006, 10:48:11 AM »

Them be good cars / engines too. And they "Chip" a treat too

keeko · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2006, 03:13:10 AM »

Diesel Golf, admittedly not a bad car. As far as LPG goes your situation is exceptional and buying a diseasel justified but my thinking is `if you buy a 4 ltr car and are thinking of converting it to LPG then you shouldn`t of bought a 4ltr`. :roll:

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lefty

MK1

UKJeeper

GowerJeeper

bobbin

Dodster

Anonymous

Anonymous

Ric Jacques

lefty

Mike Pavelin

Anonymous

cartman

bobbin

Dingo

bobbin

lefty

Anonymous

keeko