Topic: high lift kit from states (Read 14246 times)

mcbungie · « **on:** March 12, 2007, 10:48:08 PM »

hi there im looking to raise my 95 cherokee 4.0l. the leafs are knackered and I fancy a full lift kit. found this one on ebay .......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 702&rd=1,1

would appreciate any comments on it or feedback bout buying from the good old U S and A. cheers :?:

Bubba · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2007, 11:27:16 PM »

looks good dude does it mention anything about needing a slip yoke thingy

greggmo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2007, 11:51:00 PM »

dont look bad mate. also consider the rustys one that tim has fitted. works well to say the least.

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2007, 11:54:13 PM »

Sadly that ebay vendor won't ship outside the States.

Dave69 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2007, 09:01:10 AM »

The slip yoke eliminator and cv driveshaft (which are NOT necessary) are available for only $550).

as listed in the add

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2007, 09:22:55 AM »

Quote from: "Dave69"

The slip yoke eliminator and cv driveshaft (which are NOT necessary) are available for only $550).

as listed in the add

With the 1" T/C drop, you theoretically don't need an SYE, but if you've got the extra money, I'd say do it. Pig of a job to fit though.

Dave69 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2007, 09:55:18 AM »

even though i'm fitting a 3.5" lift i'm trying to avoid the SYE at the moment, if i get round to some serious off roading then it will be an option in need of serious thinking

On a slightly different note what rear diff angle shims are advisable for a 3.5" lift

JamesH · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2007, 01:16:05 PM »

Shipping of lift kits add quite a bit to the cost so don't be too shocked by the extra cost.

The Slip-yoke eliminator on that page is for a 231 transfer case as fitted to diesels, 2.5 petrols and Wranglers. Our 4.0l have a 242 case and it needs a different SYE. A transfer case drop should work well enough that you can decide on a SYE later.

Rough Country and Rustys kits are both good value though and it looks quite complete.

Dave: Shims for 3.5" lift - probably 3 degrees, tilting pinion down (fat end forward) with no SYE, other way round if you have SYE. Tuning out vibrations can be a test, modify, test, repeat process though. Different springs, shackle length etc all play a part.

I found vibrations more of an issue on the road than offroad.

Dave69 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2007, 02:01:09 PM »

thanks for that.

i was going to get a lift kit from the states with the good exchange rate but the shipping cost due to weight brought the final price not far off the uk price. so didn't bother. if you can source the heavier stuff in the uk then it might be worth while

mcbungie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2007, 05:10:13 PM »

thanks for all the replies guys. unfortunetly I dont under stasnd yoke thingys and such . to be honest I dont do a lot of off roading but like I said my leafs are shot so id like to fit a lift......

tim_aka_tim is it the 4 and a half rustys kit you have?

Bubba · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2007, 07:02:02 PM »

its kin good is what it is and very flexy puts a few other kits to shame

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2007, 08:13:01 PM »

Quote from: "mcbungie"

is it the 4 and a half rustys kit you have?

Yep. Bargain basement price and flexes like a bitch though it does have more expensive adjustable lower control arms which allow the axle to move more. I'm sure you will have seen some of the ridiculous photos in the album and my avatar. The ground clearance is just stupid - I've never got caught up on the belly - ever!
Few warnings though. Vibes are very likely. It's very high. I filthy my trousers on the sill each time I get in it.
Many moan about Rustys, but my experience was a good one. YMMV. Remember that everyone reports a bad experience, but never a good one.

Dave69 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2007, 10:17:56 PM »

the basic over view, it gets a bit more detailed at the prop/transfer case bit

the xj has a sliding coupling on the porp where it connects to the transfer box. this allows the axle to stretch and shrink when the rear axle compresses or extends when driven over obstacles.
when the xj is lifted the rear axle drops and the prop shaft extends, this then reduces the amount of extension the prop now has. what a SYE (slip yoke eliminator) does is increase the surface area on the end of the prop so the prop can now extend further without "falling out". The normal way is to fit a spline extension to the output shaft of the transfer case (prop side) and is fixed by drilling and tapping the shaft and bolting on the splined extension, no actual side loads are there it is just to stop the prop shaft comming apart.

mcbungie · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2007, 12:33:45 AM »

mm starting too have second thoughts now. like I said she spends most of her time ON the road perhaps a 3" kit might be more suitable for me

chrisjones · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2007, 01:46:50 AM »

You don't need an SYE for a 3.5" lift. You may get away with nothing at all, but the most you should need is a T-case drop kit, which are (relatively) easy to fit and can be made to save some money. They tend to just be spacers made from a couple of lengths of box section with some holes drilled in them and some longer bolts :wink:

mcbungie · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2007, 06:48:32 AM »

anyone know what kind of cash for postage for a lift kit from the states , and will I get stung for vat from customs? cheers

Dave69 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2007, 08:44:59 AM »

i did have the information but not anymore. rough ball park figure for a full lift kit from the states can be around the £300 all in with uk customs fee, then the cost of the kit on top. may sound alot but your paying for the weight and size of the springs.

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:23:36 AM »

Mine was around £800 all in. That's a 4.5" kit (2 springpacks, 2 coils, 4 shocks, t/c drop kit and associated hardware) plus adjustable lower control arms, 2 steering stabilisers, steering box brace, adjustable trackbar and quicker discos. 142 kilos on a pallet. As I recall, shipping came to $500.

Dave69 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2007, 11:22:09 AM »

price up state side and then convert it with the exchange rate. have a ring round some suppliers in the uk and see what the difference is. if not alot it might be worth buying in the uk but the choice is yours.

mcbungie · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2007, 11:36:54 AM »

yip will do thanks

mcbungie · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2007, 08:55:30 PM »

right change of plan (again) :wink:

thinkin of a set of diesel springs from lighthouse and a cheapo lift from the states . but whats better add a leafs
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-XJ- ... QQtcZphoto

or block lift
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-XJ- ... QQtcZphoto

I know none of them are great but I dont do offroad much and just want the extra height

cheers

Dave69 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2007, 06:09:19 PM »

got some diesel springs from lighthouse for mine and a 3.5" RE add'a'leaf kite from FTE. Not the best but proved reasonable from the UK. might got some parabolic springs made up at a later date..... quite a bit later at the moment

JamesH · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2007, 07:47:59 PM »

I would go for shackles, add-a-leaf and blocks in that order. You could also add the main leaf from your old springs (cut eyes off) to get a bit more lift as a freebie.

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:14:44 PM »

Have a think though about how easy it's going to be to fit. Lifts need longer shocks really, so you don't damage them. Also, your sway bar might well need adjusting, so you might need extended links, or a sway bar drop kit (and it's not that easy, 'cus the sway bar links are very likely to break rather than unscrew).

The lift shackes don't need to be too long, cus diesel springs sit 1" higher anyway.

mcbungie · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:34:12 PM »

ok what about this then

Procomp
1984-01 Cherokee [XJ] - Stage I kit
Front coil springs, rear leaf springs with fitted bushes and degree shims. Rear U-bolts, ES9000 shock absorbers & boots

Lift F/R = 2.5"/3.0"

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