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New Clutch Part 1 (Lots of piccies)
« on: March 26, 2008, 12:33:17 AM »

Clutch

Well, due to the dreadfull noise (sounds like someone using a pepper mill rather quickly) coming from Asylums TJ. The luverly task of replacing the thrust bearing and clutch were inevitable.

Jacked up the Truck and made sure we had some good room to work in. Safety first though! On blocks, with wheels chocked and Axle stands just incase.......

SHOT OF TRUCK


Asylum, said that with some 44's and Portals this type of ground clearance would make him happy!

SHOT OF CLAYTON


First to be removed was the Battery then Starter Motor:

STARTER


Then onto the rear prop

REAR PROP


Once removed, could then Support transfer case ready to remove skid plate. If you remove the skid plate without supporting the driveline. You will end up in trouble, as the plate is the main support....

PLATE OFF, REAR SUPPORTED


FRONT SUPPORT


Remove Front prop, taking the plate off makes getting to the tranny end sooo much easier!

FRONT PROP REMOVE


Disconnected all electrical plugs from Transfer and Gear box. The gearbox bellhousing has the Crank sensor to remove. Transfer case has, Speedo, 4wd light, oil pressure, Lambada sensor on cat. Plus transfer breathe pipe.

TRANSFER CASE WIRING


Remove Clutch Slave Cylinder, zip tie to chassis. Remember not to depress the Clutch peddle, or the plunger will pop out from the slave cylinder!

SLAVE CYL


Removed skid plate mount from gearbox, the rubber mount had split and needed replacing anyway. Plus the 4 main bolts were gonna be where we would support the Gearbox and Tranny, when removing. Removing the plate also helps as the rubber mount for the exhaust was seized solid, this would of caused some swearing while trying to split the bell housing from the block!

DAMAGED MOUNT


FOUR BOLTS AND GB HANGER


Removed plate from gearbox and then used an adaptor plate to bolt in its place.This would be our way of removing/splitting the Gearbox/tranny from the engine block. Simple to make, but had to sacrifice a 22mm socket to locate it in Jack.

ADAPTOR


ADAPTOR + JACK


Aligned Adaptor plate up with Garbox under truck.

ADAPTOR ON GEARBOX


JACK+MOUNT UNDER TRUCK


Now ready to start removing the neccesary bolts and final parts to get the Gearbox/Tranny split from the Engine.

Removed the Gearbox linkage and tranny selector linkage.

For the transfer selector, remove the plate as in the image. this then disengages the linkage from the transfer case. The plate is easily removed by 4 screws in the passenger footwell.

LINKAGE


PLATE REMOVED


Gearstick is pretty straight forward. From below you need to remove the dust cover and release the cap retainng the stick mechanism. Press down and twist to release. A spring is under the cap once realeased it will pop out. No drama though as it is all retained on the stick. A qiuck referal to the manual would explain this better than me!

GEARSTICK MECH


Now to the Bellhousing. 10 fasteners are needed to be removed before splitting from block. Remove all but the 2 Main bolts, the 2 either side midway up on the Bellhousing. They are the biggest bolts on the housiing, Leave them to last, once you are ready to split it.

There are 2 x Torx head screws right up at the top. These 2 "Effing" torxs will keep you busy for awhile! The way we got at them in the end was to slighty lower the Gbox to gain a little more access. If you can just crack them with a spanner, then a 1/4" Palm ratchet can get in there to remove them. We didnt have a Palm ratchet, so alot of effing and 1/4 turns with a spanner had to suffice.

TORXS


CRANK SENSOR


MAIN BOLT1


MAIN BOLT2


The lowest 2 bolts look a little over the top for holding the plate on? I would think they are for some other use too?

LOWER BOLTS



Right, with only the 2 main bolts remaining. Get ready to split the Bellhousing from the Block, this will take a bit of "Effing and Blinding" a gentle touch with a pry bar and hide mallet. I would not  hit the casings though or try prying it to heavily. We found hiting the adaptor plate with a mallet gradually set it free. There are 2 locating dowels that will clear first then about another 3/4" untill the main shaft splits from the clutch plate. Then its free.........

At this point it rained and rained and rained........Sorry no piccies,

TRANNY READY TO COME OUT


RAIN


RAIN


Once the Unit is split from the Block you can now see the Clutch housing and plate on the flywheel + Clutch fork mechanism and Thrust bearing inside the Bellhousing. We dropped the GB/Tranny assembly out and rolled it into the Garage.

The Clutch could of easily been replaced with the GB/Tranny under the truck. We were cold and wet and that was enough for us for one day!

CLUTCH HOUSING


CLUTCH FORK & BEARING


IN GARAGE
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 12:40:37 AM »

gails truck has the same noises and i have a clutch kit here waiting to go in, great piccies

are you replacing the pilot bushing  :?:
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 12:46:34 AM »

great write up and i see my question about the pilot bushing is answered in part 2 :cry:
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 12:46:56 AM »

Quote from: "my other cars a jeep"
gails truck has the same noises and i have a clutch kit here waiting to go in, great piccies

are you replacing the pilot bushing  :roll:
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 12:49:49 AM »

Quote from: "my other cars a jeep"

i didnt get an alignment tool in my clutch kit  :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 04:54:15 AM »

for some very odd reason pilot bearing almost never goes o steve i have an alighnment tool if needed
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2008, 08:13:50 AM »

thanks for the offers guys and i have a pilot bush here just in case  8-)
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2008, 09:47:13 AM »

Fantastic write up.

As an aside, plans are under way to have a section on the website - not the forum, dedicated to how to do stuff. Input like this write up is invaluable.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »

This must be the season for clutch failure.  Mine started howling while I was stuck in a clay pit.  I should have the tranny out by the end of the day.  This is the first time I am doin this by myself, so im a bit worried about droppin it on my head. :shock:
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 10:17:01 AM »

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This must be the season for clutch failure.  Mine started howling while I was stuck in a clay pit.  I should have the tranny out by the end of the day.  This is the first time I am doin this by myself, so im a bit worried about droppin it on my head. :shock:


It is a heavy lump, but as long as you have the jack secure and centered (4 main bolts on Gbox) the box is very stable.

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 10:28:13 AM »

After getting my clutch kit and no pilot bushing bearing in it, I ordered one from lighthouse, so I have a spare now as we did not need to change the old one. I ordered at the same time as the clutch kit a pilot bushing removal tool, but that still has not arrived which is ok seeing as we did not need it!

Can anybody tell me where the gear box breaths from?

I was led to believe that it breathed through, into the bell housing but on close inspection there is no breather or hole? Logic says it cant share the transfer box breather so I am a bit confused!

Warthog and I, before taking it all aprt had plans to block up the bell housing and insert a new breather pipe on top the bell housing. After close inspection, there are that many holes in the bell housing, that even if we had made a breather adapter and pipe and RTV'ed every mating surface, blocked up the holes at the bottom and top/back of the housing, the seal aroung the clutch slave is not brilliant and the seal around the bell housing plate that butts up the the engine is not brilliant also and water/crap would have got in. We also concluded that a drain plug would have had to been fitted to the bottom due to this, so with everything weighed up, as there is no breather from the gearbox into the bell housing its better left as it is!!!!!!!!  8-)

Clayt
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2008, 07:05:58 PM »

after seeing the write up, i reckon me and tom tom will struggle with that weight (as neither of us is exactly mr muscle) and our drive slopes at a good 10 degrees to make it more awkward  :wink:
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