Topic: loss of drive (Read 16595 times)

Nosebolt · « **Reply #25 on:** September 23, 2008, 12:07:26 PM »

The nearside shaft seems ok (don’t spin) offside can’t be checked yet, I can’t get the cap off, seized solid. :roll:

So will be a few days before new better quality bit turns up.

Bubba · « **Reply #26 on:** September 23, 2008, 03:26:12 PM »

but the cap is plastic asault it and show it you aint kidding and it will jump off

Nosebolt · « **Reply #27 on:** September 23, 2008, 03:37:18 PM »

na its metal, rust 'n' all

captain cavalier · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:26:03 PM »

Have a plasma cutter at work

Can get it off but cannot guarantee what else will follow.

And putting it back together would be hard

BUT its great fun

One of the best big boys toys ever[/list]

Bubba · « **Reply #29 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:28:38 PM »

thats a 77/78 axel they only fitted them tin caps for one year

Nosebolt · « **Reply #30 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:32:36 PM »

LoL that don’t surprise me, this rig is turning out to be a real mongrel, to be honest I cant wait till it running enough to get it to a club meet so it can get looked at by a few of you knowledgeable gentlemen (I use that term loosely) it would be nice to know what it realy is.

Bubba · « **Reply #31 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »

maybe its a covert austin gypsy

Nosebolt · « **Reply #32 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:53:03 PM »

Quote from: "V8 Bubba"

maybe its a covert austin gypsy

I couldn't be that lucky. :-?

Nosebolt · « **Reply #33 on:** September 23, 2008, 05:08:49 PM »

Back to a serious note, it is an AMC 20, but did different years have different ratios?
If so what do I need to source?
Am I governed by what’s fitted in the front? (Dana 30, by the bolt pattern).
And if I am going to get one piece shafts how do I know what kit I need?
I am going to stop thinking about it now cos my head hurts.

Bubba · « **Reply #34 on:** September 23, 2008, 06:11:53 PM »

there is a few ratios but i would be quite surprised if the diff is shagged they are bigger tougher diffs than a dana 44 the only thing that can happen as with any diff is the bearings may go
you will asuming all is well with diff need a one piece shaft narrow trac kit

captain cavalier · « **Reply #35 on:** September 24, 2008, 09:02:13 AM »

Have you tried (carefully) turning the caps with a large pair of stilsons to loosen them.

captain cavalier · « **Reply #36 on:** September 24, 2008, 09:02:39 AM »

Have you tried (carefully) turning the caps with a large pair of stilsons to loosen them.

Nosebolt · « **Reply #37 on:** September 24, 2008, 10:28:24 AM »

Nearside one is off and shaft is ok, offside is stuck but if I wasn't so lazy I would take the wheel off then job would be easy.

But as I mentioned before time is an issue at the moment so I am grabbing 5 mins here and there when I can till the weekend than I can put some time in the job.

Unfortunately it’s not like when I did the respray when I told all my customers I had gone away for 2 weeks 8-)

eastryjeep · « **Reply #38 on:** September 24, 2008, 01:11:53 PM »

Ah, an AMC 20. With all the verbal abuse these axles take its no wonder they put up a complaint now and then! Personally I recon they dont deserve the bad reputation they have, but then mine aint busted!
Anyway, I'd proceed as follows:
Wheel off.
Wire brush the dust cover where it goes into the brake drum.
Inspect closely, you're looking for 2 recesses in the cover which take a flat bladed screwdriver, if none found - make them! (5 or 6 mm wide will do). Do not distort cover out of round or you'll be stuffed later.
Administer penetrating oil and wait, when bored of waiting put more oil and go for a cuppa!
After cuppa, or alternate bevy of choice, insert screwdrivers and pry cover out of brake drum.
Once cap starts to move you can increase the size of the screwdrivers, just keep the cap straight as it comes out.
Replace road wheel, apply brake, apply power and have assistant observe, if woodruf key on shaft has sheared the centre nut should spin, the wheel wont and the half shaft is kaput. :weep:

With regards the diff cover bolts, take a Dremel and cut a slot in the heads of all those Torx screws and whip them out with an impact driver then replace them with hex socket screws - they are easy to get and you can even borrow a set of Allen keys off a cyclist nowadays, but Torx is just a pain.

Nosebolt · « **Reply #39 on:** September 24, 2008, 05:23:59 PM »

Lighthouse have a set of one pieces in stock 292.50, I asume that will be made by crown.

PtP · « **Reply #40 on:** September 24, 2008, 06:25:18 PM »

Would these fit?

??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WARN-FREE-WHEELIN ... 286.c0.m14

Nosebolt · « **Reply #41 on:** September 24, 2008, 06:30:14 PM »

from the pics the rear is offset so from what i'v been told wont fit my CJ :-(

Bubba · « **Reply #42 on:** September 24, 2008, 08:14:57 PM »

they will fit the amc 20 is very slightly offset in all models but the amc 20 qaudratrac is drasticly offset by roughly a foot rather than a couple of inches but why by an unknown used unit from somone who does not realy know what he is selling the warn axle he refers two is nothing more than a dana 30 with avm freewheel hubs that is a south american copy of a warn free wheel hub although i think they are a licenced copy

Bubba · « **Reply #43 on:** September 24, 2008, 08:19:32 PM »

they would seem to be from a 79

Mick O · « **Reply #44 on:** September 24, 2008, 09:40:35 PM »

Quote from: "Nosebolt"

Lighthouse have a set of one pieces in stock 292.50, I asume that will be made by crown.

Could be crown.

They only recommend upto 31" tyres :-D

8-)

Nosebolt · « **Reply #45 on:** September 24, 2008, 09:53:44 PM »

shipping quote requested 8-)

JamesH · « **Reply #46 on:** September 25, 2008, 09:56:36 AM »

Try http://http://www.ringpinion.com

I got Yukon shafts there for a good price for my C8.25 axle and found these that I think are correct for yours:

http://http://www.ringpinion.com/PartsList.aspx?SearchMode=Diff&TypeID=1&Type=AMC&DiffID=1&DiffName=AMC+Model+20&CatID=1&CatName=Axles+%26+Axle+Bearings+&CatType=Sub-Differential

Nosebolt · « **Reply #47 on:** September 25, 2008, 11:29:59 AM »

James, what did carrage and duty cost you?

captain cavalier · « **Reply #48 on:** September 28, 2008, 12:19:53 AM »

how is it getting along the saga seems to be slowing down

Nosebolt · « **Reply #49 on:** September 28, 2008, 03:45:18 PM »

all down to budget m8, :-(

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