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Snorkel and rain in the air-box
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:31:06 PM »

About a week or so ago we had a lot of rain which was blowing from the north and it appears that quite a lot of it blew into the snorkel on my TJ where it’s usually parked.

I recall starting the Jeep a week back and hearing a strange bubbling noise coming from the snorkel, but thought nothing more of it as I assumed it would soon evaporate off – WRONG!

On Saturday evening I took the Jeep out and whilst it would run fine at normal pottering speeds, I noticed it was just not wanting to rev. I looked inside the air-box today and discovered the stock filter was sodden wet and the bottom of the air-box was full of water! :-?

I’ve dried out the air-box and I’ll unplug the holes and fit a new filter in the morning. :-)

Anyone else with a snorkel plugged the drain holes in their air-box?
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 10:34:49 PM »

yep,plugged holes and K&N filters fitted

just dry out the box and re-treat the filters
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 10:38:46 PM »

And park it at a different angle Pete...
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 10:39:26 PM »

In what direction is the snout pointed?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 10:41:28 PM »

:roll:
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 10:42:22 PM »

Why ya never go off road.... :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 10:44:11 PM »

...not with you anyway  :lol:
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 11:08:57 PM »

so pete has to turn his snorkle round to face the back of the truck

as it was parked, what happens if the rain comes from the south

sorry guys, not convinced  :-?
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 11:12:33 PM »

could go back to basics, a carrier bag and elastic band maybe?  :idea:
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 03:59:00 AM »

it's the driven (when your driving) rain that collects in the air box - also when off roading the snout facing forward will get clogged up with mud...i
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 07:10:55 AM »

So then, are we saying its best to have it pointed backwards all of the time then  :?:
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 09:01:08 AM »

Best facing backwards, stuff doesn't get forced down it when you are travelling forwards then
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 09:17:13 AM »

Surely the way to solve this problem is to put an upside down u bend on the top. Just my ten penneth. :-)
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 09:18:29 AM »

or a mushroom prefilter
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 09:26:43 AM »

Or a u bend before and lower than the filter with a drain tube linked to an old washer pump motor,  :-) ,
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 12:47:50 PM »

Slightly off topic guy's, apart from Australia, anyone know who retails snorkels for the diesel cherokee, or happens to know if one can be adapted/modified from one that is designed for another vehicle such as a landy?.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 12:56:42 PM »

Oh come on!
Modified 3 litre milk bottle for parked condition:
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Big air box, short length of chain and commode built into passenger seat for use off road!
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 01:05:07 PM »

not having one but here's my input anyway.....
a snorkel comes with a filter in the snout so that any debris is filtered before it gets to the main filter,well I thought thats the logic behind the system.if you  turn the snout round then you are drawing air from a negative pressure zone ( caused by the snorkel travelling) hence you limit the supply cool air entering the engine,I can understand the idea of turning it round off road so as to stop branches, bubba's pork pies etc getting stuffed into it and damaging the pre-filter but otherwise i would not see their is any real difference in how it works.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 01:37:06 PM »

Quote from: "gordy"
Slightly off topic guy's, apart from Australia, anyone know who retails snorkels for the diesel cherokee, or happens to know if one can be adapted/modified from one that is designed for another vehicle such as a landy?.


http://www.4x4-snorkels.co.uk/p/449968/ ... -dfau.html

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 02:24:51 PM »

The snorkel is facing forward, but it filled with water from the rain blowing from the north whilst the Jeep was parked up and not from being driven in the rain.

These snorkels do not have a pre-filter, just a plastic mesh which is more of a finishing trim then anything else.

There is space for water to collect in the bottom of the main tube as the feed into the engine bay is a couple of inches back up the main tube.

I don’t think it’s possible to turn the ram on top of the snorkel to face backwards as it looks like it would interfere with door top.

If I recall, the mushroom pre-filters are only suitable for dusty low speed conditions.

I’m thinking if I open the two drain holes up, then whilst they are only about 3mm in diameter, this defeats the whole object of fitting a snorkel in the first place.

Apart from MOCAJ does anyone else block off the drain holes in the stock filter box?

I’ve just ordered a K&N filter as the local dealer wanted around £18 for a stock paper one and at £40 for the K&N I reckon this will be easy to service etc.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 07:33:51 PM »

yep ive sealed every joint an hole, not had your problem befor tho!

if you don't seal it then your snorkels just an expensive coat hook!!! an kiss your engine goodbye :smt039
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 07:44:49 PM »

Quote from: "wazza"
yep ive sealed every joint an hole, not had your problem befor tho!

if you don't seal it then your snorkels just an expensive coat hook!!! an kiss your engine goodbye :imwitstupid:
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 09:16:26 PM »

Yes seal every hole also.


Jezus "forced air induction" science of the god's I say.

Those who have not blocked the snout with crud - learn from those who have.


K&N the best filter by far for the mooooolar.



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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2008, 09:29:32 PM »

K&N's rock like barstewards... :lol:


Not a fan of em and not for historical reasons.... :shock:
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2008, 10:24:23 PM »

the snorkel top should always face in the direction af travel as the manufacturer intended. the top is designed so that the wind driven rain and water hits the tube and is sent out through the vents on the top section of the snorkel. if you put it on backwards it will draw water rather than get it forced in by the rate of travel so it will just get sucked down the tube rather than hit the back of the tube. when did ya last check the airbox peter? maybe someone has just had some fun with a watering can :lol:
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