Topic: XJ ponderings (Read 3256 times)

scrw · « **on:** February 16, 2011, 01:23:27 PM »

I have a plan, someone talk me out of this.

Get a set of axles & wheels off a diesel WJ (3.91 diffs, varilok LSDs) chop off the spring mounts & fit leaf spring perches on the 44a, get some 265-75-16 tyres, chuck the lot under an XJ with a 4" lift.

Hey presto an XJ running 32's with front and rear LSDs and a decent-ish rear axle with disks for less cash than a straight regear.

What am I missing? seems too easy

captain cavalier · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2011, 02:13:17 PM »

Plus you also get the wj steering and brake conversion

Why not use coils on the back

go jeep did his coil conversion

scrw · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:08:55 PM »

tempting but adds to the hassle, but would be easy enough to build a subframe that uses the WJ bottom and A arm.......

scrw · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:16:49 PM »

then again, maybe leaf springs would eb better, his coil Xj ended up like this

JamesH · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:47:24 PM »

Sounds like a plan. The only (minor) issues to sort would be:

width, WJ axles are wider so: trackbar and steering draglink would need to be WJ or custom and tyre coverage maybe be an issue??
propshafts, I'm guessing the best plan would be to use XJ ones (adjusted to length) and change the pinion yokes on the WJ axles.
handbrake cables (v.v.vminor) lengths will probably be different.
ABS, easiest to just remove it from the XJ but it would be an interesting project to tackle and write-up it you get the WJ axles working with the XJ ABS controller.

It would be a sweet XJ setup with those axles. I would probably go 3" lift and some minor/clever/hidden trimming if necessary.

scrw · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:02:29 PM »

been pondering further.

Downside would be low pinion d30 up front. Might need WJ master cylinder for the brakes, not a massive issue, depends on piston ratios.

ABS, IF the sensors have similar tooth count shouldn't be a issue, maybe just changing the WJ sensor plugs ir fitting the XJ sensors to the WJ axles.
Propshafts, would use the XJ ones, front would be a straight swap over using the XJ front yoke, rear prop may need shortening.
Steering would be custom drag link (may get away with modded WJ one) track bar will be a suck it and see with the WJ one, maybe okay with a 3" lift and the slightly longer WJ link.

Getting a more tempting plan...

scrw · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:10:18 PM »

Do TJ wranglers with D44 rears come with ABS

MOCAJ · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:12:44 PM »

All mine are non ABS

scrw · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:20:46 PM »

Well XJ tone rings are 54 tooth, trying to find the tooth count for a WJ. A bit of googling about found a link back to this same subject but I raised it 2 odd years ago

3 jeeps later I am thinking about it again

gazjeep · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:28:36 PM »

Hmmmm, thought naively we had ABS on our 98TJ, would this just operate on the Front then, not the back also

JamesH · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:42:57 PM »

Later TJs had ABS, Grenville's 2005(?) has ABS and also the 6 speed manual gearbox

MOCAJ · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:44:38 PM »

my 2003 dont have it

scrw · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:49:18 PM »

Quote from: JamesH on February 16, 2011, 05:47:24 PM

width, WJ axles are wider so: trackbar and steering draglink would need to be WJ or custom and tyre coverage maybe be an issue??

If i keep the 6.5 backspace stock WJ wheels this shouldn't be too much of an issue.
Fag packet calculation says a WJ axle with stock 6.5BS wheels & 265 rubber is within 1/2" of the track my old XJ had with the xj axle, 4.5BS wheels & 235 rubber, and they went under the arches nicely

gazjeep · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:49:28 PM »

Think Sarah's gonna take it to work tomorow so have instructed (asked nicely) her to have a look & see what lights up on the dash at start up, ya live & learn

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:32:27 PM »

SCRW old chap...why dont you stick some 235 75 R15 MT's on it front rear recovery points etc and actually use it to go laning and PnPs...much less hassle and more fun...

scrw · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:39:38 PM »

you have shiney sockets, you just don't get it

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:42:54 PM »

Quote from: scrw on February 16, 2011, 09:39:38 PM

you have shiney sockets, you just don't get it

I have used OS maps and stuff...get out mon...

scrw · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:48:02 PM »

going OT here but...laning, not interested anymore.....pnp, done the local stuff, will have another bash at em in a few months or so, mean time, one will tinker

Bubba · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:02:42 PM »

no buy a cheapee get a mot nail the rear doors shut and trim for 32s or 3s and go play till it dies

scrw · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:18:35 PM »

nope, I can't do that, don't like killing vehicles, goes against the grain

Bubba · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:32:37 PM »

but xjs are cannon fodder these days there are some good xj builds out there but why chuck cash building an xj when they will be near valueless at the end sorry if that sounds hurtfull to xj lovers

scrw · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:41:01 PM »

I'd rather spend some cash & look after it, same with the Grand, its worth feck all, but I'll keep it going for a fair few years yet. The bits I'd invest in the XJ would easily transplant into a new one anyway.

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #22 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:47:39 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on February 16, 2011, 10:32:37 PM

but xjs are cannon fodder these days there are some good xj builds out there but why chuck cash building an xj when they will be near valueless at the end sorry if that sounds hurtfull to xj lovers

Must say I agree with Bubba sadly

As for laning Wrighty youve lost interst coz the memory fades...

Bubba · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:55:22 PM »

i know it sounded anti xj but it is what i think last year at the break out there was a xj on 35boggers the best built xj i had seen since mick stansfeilds but it ended up broke due to the whole truck flexing and it started to tear the track bar mount of it was a shame as it was a well cool truck it was a lot of time skill and cash to be felled by the unibody nature of the beast

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:57:21 PM »

You arnt Kev....me thinks XJs' and Ill get flamed for this work best with minimal mods over here...

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