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Bubba

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jeep handbrakes are just shit
« on: March 16, 2007, 10:19:01 PM »

aint it the truth :?:
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 10:21:09 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 10:27:17 PM »

i do think discs are the best way but not cheap
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 10:28:05 PM »

mine is great as long as ya dont use it EVER. :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 10:31:45 PM »

my one jeep is auto so dont care but the gt is a man and its a pain
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007, 10:46:37 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2007, 12:09:03 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2007, 12:37:27 AM »

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Line Lock :supz:


i was going to use one of these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... &rd=1&rd=1

but still need handbrake for MOT so looking into rear disc conversion using
rover 800 calipers
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2007, 12:39:26 AM »

that line lock looks interesting mik. do ya know anyone using it?
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2007, 11:26:03 AM »

good idea but it's never been good practice to use a line lock as a long term wheel brake. Logn durations of pressure in the lines has a bad effect on the std hoses. short term use ok or just leave the jeep in gear.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2007, 01:33:31 PM »

I'm considering rear discs from a ZJ. The swap's easy enough, it's just finding one breaking for reasonable money.

What the idea behind the Rover Calipers?? I've not heard of that much before.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2007, 06:28:59 PM »

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good idea but it's never been good practice to use a line lock as a long term wheel brake. Logn durations of pressure in the lines has a bad effect on the std hoses. short term use ok or just leave the jeep in gear.


As you need to splice the line lock into your rear brake feed an upgrade to stainess braided lines makes the job much easier. It also negates the problem you are referring to if you run them all the way to the calipers.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2007, 08:39:45 PM »

Having nearly gone backwards over a cliff after engaging the (so called) parking brake, i have parked it in first as a natural reaction for the last 12 years.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2007, 08:46:43 PM »

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What the idea behind the Rover Calipers?? I've not heard of that much before.


i heard thats the calipers MDG usr in there kits.

 there hydro mechanical ( and cheap to buy)
and with a set of grand discs or front xj disc (if the capiler accept vented discs)  its a case of getting some brackets made up
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2007, 09:26:42 PM »

The AMC20 that I bought from KingCJ has a MDG disc conversion on it.

It uses Rover 820 rear calipers and Suzuki SJ front discs. The Goodridge hoses, brackets and handbrake cables are specifically made.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2007, 09:32:56 PM »

cool sj disc look into that
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2007, 03:07:10 PM »

Ihave a ZJ, my wife has a ZJ her hand brake is good mine is crap, even though the rear discs, brake pads and handbrake shoes are new. How does that work? I am hoping that mine will come good.  Until then it gets left in gear.


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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2007, 10:39:32 PM »

i am deffo gonna look into the line lock for off road use. but it is always good to leave em in  gear. i see we have a new poster 8)
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2007, 10:49:16 PM »

line lock is not mot acceptable and i believe that it only guarantees hold for 20 seconds or something like that.






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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2007, 11:10:01 PM »

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cool sj disc look into that


I'm not sure what motor you have, but don't forget CJs and Suzukis are 5 x 5 1/2 not 4 1/2 like the later stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 01:24:11 PM »

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I'm considering rear discs from a ZJ. The swap's easy enough, it's just finding one breaking for reasonable money.

ZJ rear discs are brake pedal operated only, the handbrake uses a smaller drum brake and shoe layout and it is useless after a couple of mud runs. I always have to manually re-tension a day or 2 later.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2007, 02:14:27 PM »

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cool sj disc look into that

I'm not sure what motor you have, but don't forget CJs and Suzukis are 5 x 5 1/2 not 4 1/2 like the later stuff.


yeah looked at that and found that they won't fit my cherry but i believe the wifes rav 4 discs do and i've just changed the front ones
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2007, 02:28:18 PM »

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ZJ rear discs are brake pedal operated only, the handbrake uses a smaller drum brake and shoe layout and it is useless after a couple of mud runs. I always have to manually re-tension a day or 2 later.

I'm not really doing it for the handbrake as I have an auto and only need a handbrake a few times a year. If the ZJ drum setup is like the XJ one, it's all about cleaning them and re-tensioning every coule of weeks. I looked up the Rover calipers and can see the advantage of them, it's just sorting out the brackets and discs that needs some investigation.[/quote]
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2007, 02:36:59 PM »

i'm fed up with redoing the hand brake every week even if i don't use it. :)

stiil just keeping my eye out for a bargain shame the X.eng brake is a no go without a sye
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2007, 03:40:19 PM »

I looked at the X-brake idea as I have a SYE that it would fit to. It's just that it would also require a custom crossmember to mount the caliper to and wouldn't eliminate the 'lurch' I get from my Detroit.

I think the hydro-mechanical caliper is the way to go. It just requires getting all the parts and working out the mounting. If I had a template I could probably get a batch of brackets CNC cut by a friend. I just don't have the time (or warm workshop) to play around with it all.
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